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St Louis SEO Said in Thursday, July 24th, 2008 @10:18 am  

I think its a simple case of not needing to rank. They do anyway. So why not make their websites fancy and pretty? That’s what sells cars, right?

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Tad Miller Said in Thursday, July 24th, 2008 @9:13 pm  

We’ve done SEO for two OEMs. Brand really is king for driving results and page design. But the areas that get ignored are automotive segment keywords like compact car, crossover vehicle or mid-size car, etc.

Because they are so protective of the “brand” image and utilize the programming languages that the search engine bots can’t read they never rank for those kind of keywords. They just rely on paid search to give them the visibility they need on all keywords outside of their brand terms. It’s part of the reason why automotive is such a huge spender in paid search.

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derek chew Said in Friday, July 25th, 2008 @11:26 am  

Automotive is a definite huge spender on PPC but that requires budget and when times are tough, like now, their shrinking budget for everything just doesn’t help much either for protecting their brand. But I suppose the OEMs are willing to spend more to protect their brands at all costs.

Tad is right though - the segments are all dominated by 3rd party sites like Edmunds, CarandDriver, and other content review sites. And OEMs either don’t care, don’t know how to or cannot allocate more resources to build out their content - what a shame. So much for long term internet planning.

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mherman31 Said in Friday, July 25th, 2008 @6:02 pm  

Excellent explanation of this important issue within the automotive vertical.

This is a major sticking point with clients which employ 3rd party web dev squads and need to be educated enough about this issue in order to direct the web dev team to implement smart SEO strategies into their Flash, Ajax & JavaScript bells & whistles.

This industry will use Flash on their sites, and that won’t change for some time. So, as an agency consultant, I tend to stay away from telling the web dev team why certain techniques would benefit the client & their list of overall goals, and I keep my focus on getting the client so sure of what best practices in this area can do for them that they demand changes to the wireframes/website.

That’s the plan at least. Some OEMs still have a ways to go in being willing to accept and embrace that which can greatly benefit them in the field of SEO.

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derek chew Said in Monday, July 28th, 2008 @4:59 pm  

Great points mherman31,

Before my current gig, I worked at an interactive agency overseeing SEO work for the Chrysler brands. And while some clients understood the importance of SEO and their lack of market share for long tail keyword rankings against aggregate sides like Edmunds.com, CarandDriver.com, etc they rarely know where to begin - since they have their hands tied.

Of course, on the flip side you have OEMs who are headstrong on using the fanciest and flashiest application available out there. Those are the most difficult to convince. And them thinking SEO is “black magic” doesn’t help the cause either.

The real battle, I soon realized, was not on the clients side, because clients are easier to convince then internal teams in an interactive agency. But the agencies who lack the experience in developing successful SEO strategies for OEMs will almost always discount the notion that Flash is bad. Typical answers include “Google can now index Flash pages” or “Google is smart enough to figure it out.” That’s fine and dandy, but let me remind ourselves that Google took over 5 years to settle a standard for sitemaps and robots.txt files!

In a few more years, I have less doubt that Flash sites can be fully indexed and ranked, but for now, I’d definitely hope OEMs stick with the basics and not try to jump too far ahead of their time. They most probably will since most interactive agencies like the fancy stuff - but if your brand lack in SEO strategy and doesn’t rank for targeted terms like “4-door sedans” or “fuel efficient cars” - don’t blame it on your SEO. Look at who’s making the decisions for your website and I’m sure you’ll find a SEO recommendation in there somewhere that talks about using less Flash and having more content.

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adamw Said in Tuesday, July 29th, 2008 @2:22 pm  

Hi Derek, a great post which highlights how much large automotive brands are falling foul of the benefits of incorporating SEO best practices into multi-million dollar web development projects.

What is clear to me is that automobile manufacturers are not doing enough to target the extraordinarily long consideration cycle around vehicle purchases. A little (crawlable) content goes a long way.

A correction however that the guys behind the Ford.com success are in fact Avenue A | Razorfish’s SEO and Web Development teams working together around AARF’s SOFA (Search Optimized Flash Architecture) technique. I believe Justin at Zaaz is to congratulate for his work on Ford Vehicles rather.

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derek chew Said in Tuesday, July 29th, 2008 @2:56 pm  

Hi Adam,

I stand corrected - after talking to Sean :) And yes, Avenue A | Razorfish did an excellent job with Ford.com - keep up the kick ass work over there!

This is exactly the type of SEO work OEMs need and I’m glad that there are agencies out there like AARF that really understands and deliver.

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